Comments on: What promotion looks like for me this year http://childrensministryonline.com/personal/what-promotion-looks-like-for-me-this-year/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:29:58 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kenny http://childrensministryonline.com/personal/what-promotion-looks-like-for-me-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-300 Kenny Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:32:32 +0000 http://childrensministryonline.com/blog/leadership/what-promotion-looks-like-for-me-this-year/#comment-300 This post wasn't intended to be about numbers at all, but just and update to those who've been following my transition to Gateway Church and all the changes coming up in the fall... we're doing a pretty big apple turnover on August 24th. The link you provided was EXCELLENT! I agree 100% with that list as a way to measure success. However, I'm always cautious when people want to throw out tracking numbers as a measure of success. Yes, kids are people, not numbers. But, each number represents a soul. As Craig Jutila used to say, it doesn't matter if you have 50 kids or 500 kids, the only number that matters is if you're influencing MORE than you did the year before. In addition, Jim Wideman talked about how vital it was to be able to track kids as their pastor. The Shepherd counted his sheep and knew when the 1 was missing. When you're responsible for 30-40 separate classes/rooms on a weekend, tracking the numbers helps me as a leader/manager/pastor. When a room takes a dip, is there something going on that I need to know about. When one room begins to soar, I can plan new spaces to accommodate growth. Yeah, I'll have to disagree with you on this one, knowing the numbers is key to what I do. This post wasn’t intended to be about numbers at all, but just and update to those who’ve been following my transition to Gateway Church and all the changes coming up in the fall… we’re doing a pretty big apple turnover on August 24th.

The link you provided was EXCELLENT! I agree 100% with that list as a way to measure success. However, I’m always cautious when people want to throw out tracking numbers as a measure of success. Yes, kids are people, not numbers. But, each number represents a soul. As Craig Jutila used to say, it doesn’t matter if you have 50 kids or 500 kids, the only number that matters is if you’re influencing MORE than you did the year before. In addition, Jim Wideman talked about how vital it was to be able to track kids as their pastor. The Shepherd counted his sheep and knew when the 1 was missing. When you’re responsible for 30-40 separate classes/rooms on a weekend, tracking the numbers helps me as a leader/manager/pastor. When a room takes a dip, is there something going on that I need to know about. When one room begins to soar, I can plan new spaces to accommodate growth. Yeah, I’ll have to disagree with you on this one, knowing the numbers is key to what I do.

]]> By: Sara Conley http://childrensministryonline.com/personal/what-promotion-looks-like-for-me-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-299 Sara Conley Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:54:36 +0000 http://childrensministryonline.com/blog/leadership/what-promotion-looks-like-for-me-this-year/#comment-299 Hi Brenna, I know the year I worked in CM before coming home to be with my son, we did study attendance numbers somewhat. Not so much to record success, but to help plan for rooms and ratios. It gave us an idea of who was promoting so we could plan our rooms accordingly. I literally had a room of 2's busting at the seams. The preschool director was really glad to know that as she reorganized her rooms and recruited more workers to accommodate those kids as they moved to her 3 year old class. Hi Brenna, I know the year I worked in CM before coming home to be with my son, we did study attendance numbers somewhat. Not so much to record success, but to help plan for rooms and ratios. It gave us an idea of who was promoting so we could plan our rooms accordingly. I literally had a room of 2′s busting at the seams. The preschool director was really glad to know that as she reorganized her rooms and recruited more workers to accommodate those kids as they moved to her 3 year old class.

]]> By: Brenna http://childrensministryonline.com/personal/what-promotion-looks-like-for-me-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-301 Brenna Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:08:33 +0000 http://childrensministryonline.com/blog/leadership/what-promotion-looks-like-for-me-this-year/#comment-301 Your attendance and promotion sounds exciting, but I have to ask you a question. Why study the numbers in attendance? Is that where our success should focus on ... see a great post on a new way of thinking of missional ministry success ... http://www.wdavidphillips.com/2008/06/05/measuring-success-in-ministry/ Just a thought. Your attendance and promotion sounds exciting, but I have to ask you a question. Why study the numbers in attendance? Is that where our success should focus on … see a great post on a new way of thinking of missional ministry success … http://www.wdavidphillips.com/2008/06/05/measuring-success-in-ministry/

Just a thought.

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