Comments on: Faith development of a child: Episode 1 http://childrensministryonline.com/philosophy/faith-development-of-a-child-episode-1/ Thu, 17 May 2012 14:24:00 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Kenny Conley: A Children’s Pastor Wrestles with Theology and Practice — SojournKids http://childrensministryonline.com/philosophy/faith-development-of-a-child-episode-1/comment-page-1/#comment-7061 Kenny Conley: A Children’s Pastor Wrestles with Theology and Practice — SojournKids Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:20:06 +0000 http://childrensministryonline.com/?p=3653#comment-7061 [...] Episode 1 [...] [...] Episode 1 [...]

]]> By: Gina http://childrensministryonline.com/philosophy/faith-development-of-a-child-episode-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3849 Gina Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:42:46 +0000 http://childrensministryonline.com/?p=3653#comment-3849 This hits right at the heart of where I'm most frustrated. (And I mean frustrated in a Holy Discontent sort of way.) I think it goes to show how much the parent understands about salvation and baptism if the child is praying "the prayer" right before stepping into the pool. We live for the 'feel good' moments. The ones that confirm that "I'm a good parent." "I'm a good christian" "I'm doing the right things" As church leaders are we creating hoops to jump through to confirm readiness ("the prayer")? Or are we defining outcomes (fruits of the Spirit) to confirm readiness? Tough topic, Kenny. Thanks for bringing it to the table. I'd love to hear more thoughts on it from others. <abbr><em><abbr><em>Ginas last blog post..<a href="http://www.ginamcclain.com/?p=1807" rel="nofollow">perspectives</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> This hits right at the heart of where I’m most frustrated. (And I mean frustrated in a Holy Discontent sort of way.)

I think it goes to show how much the parent understands about salvation and baptism if the child is praying “the prayer” right before stepping into the pool. We live for the ‘feel good’ moments. The ones that confirm that “I’m a good parent.” “I’m a good christian” “I’m doing the right things”

As church leaders are we creating hoops to jump through to confirm readiness (“the prayer”)? Or are we defining outcomes (fruits of the Spirit) to confirm readiness?

Tough topic, Kenny. Thanks for bringing it to the table. I’d love to hear more thoughts on it from others.

Ginas last blog post..perspectives

]]> By: Faith development of a child: Enabling False Beliefs | Childrens Ministry Online http://childrensministryonline.com/philosophy/faith-development-of-a-child-episode-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3709 Faith development of a child: Enabling False Beliefs | Childrens Ministry Online Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:32:47 +0000 http://childrensministryonline.com/?p=3653#comment-3709 [...] Faith development of a child: Episode 1 Jun [...] [...] Faith development of a child: Episode 1 Jun [...]

]]> By: Kenny http://childrensministryonline.com/philosophy/faith-development-of-a-child-episode-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3640 Kenny Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:25:38 +0000 http://childrensministryonline.com/?p=3653#comment-3640 Yeah, I get what you're saying. I can't get the verse to go quite there, but I think there's an over-arching theme there about how we lead kids. No need to explain yourself. Good point on our motivation for evangelism. Yeah, that can be a big problem if numbers factor in to our urge to see kids come to faith. Yeah, I get what you’re saying. I can’t get the verse to go quite there, but I think there’s an over-arching theme there about how we lead kids. No need to explain yourself.

Good point on our motivation for evangelism. Yeah, that can be a big problem if numbers factor in to our urge to see kids come to faith.

]]> By: Henry Zonio http://childrensministryonline.com/philosophy/faith-development-of-a-child-episode-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3637 Henry Zonio Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:46:50 +0000 http://childrensministryonline.com/?p=3653#comment-3637 Hey thanks for the mention... As for the reference, I know that I am taking liberties with the context, but I think the sentiment is the same. The verse speaks about leading children astray, and when we carelessly get children to repeat a prayer or get baptized or commit to something without building the necessary relationship needed to follow up with all of that, then we set up that child to walk away from faith disillusioned... we see that happening today with all the statistics of people choosing to opt out of following Christ. Anyway, just my attempt to further explain myself :) I think one other important question we need to ask, even more than giving the proper motivation for a child wanting to be saved (because I think only the Holy Spirit can do that for each individual), is what is OUR motivation for evangelism? The answer to that question dictates much of what we do and how we do evangelism. <abbr><em><abbr><em>Henry Zonios last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elementalcm/~3/npETlRaNpbI/" rel="nofollow">What Would You Do Different?</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Hey thanks for the mention… As for the reference, I know that I am taking liberties with the context, but I think the sentiment is the same. The verse speaks about leading children astray, and when we carelessly get children to repeat a prayer or get baptized or commit to something without building the necessary relationship needed to follow up with all of that, then we set up that child to walk away from faith disillusioned… we see that happening today with all the statistics of people choosing to opt out of following Christ. Anyway, just my attempt to further explain myself :)

I think one other important question we need to ask, even more than giving the proper motivation for a child wanting to be saved (because I think only the Holy Spirit can do that for each individual), is what is OUR motivation for evangelism? The answer to that question dictates much of what we do and how we do evangelism.

Henry Zonios last blog post..What Would You Do Different?

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