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		<title>My Beef with Bible Bucks: My exception to the rule</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think I&#8217;ve thoroughly covered my experiences (and opinions) on Bible Bucks programs. I sense that this is one of those &#8220;touchy&#8221; areas where many people have their strong opinions, and it seems that most people have very strong opinions on the matter. I think that&#8217;s great! All the more reason to hash stuff out, push the envelope and get some good ideas. <a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=767" target="_blank">As Jonathan said, Sacred Cows make good hamburgers.</a></p>
<p>There is one place though where I have done an incentive program. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite, I don&#8217;t know. Although we didn&#8217;t do this at Gateway this year and I don&#8217;t know if or when we&#8217;ll do one in the future, but I&#8217;ve always put incentives in place at our Venture Quest (VBS programs).&#8230; <a href="http://childrensministryonline.com/elementary/my-beef-with-bible-bucks-my-exception-to-the-rule/" class="read_more">Read the rest</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think I&#8217;ve thoroughly covered my experiences (and opinions) on Bible Bucks programs. I sense that this is one of those &#8220;touchy&#8221; areas where many people have their strong opinions, and it seems that most people have very strong opinions on the matter. I think that&#8217;s great! All the more reason to hash stuff out, push the envelope and get some good ideas. <a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=767" target="_blank">As Jonathan said, Sacred Cows make good hamburgers.</a></p>
<p>There is one place though where I have done an incentive program. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite, I don&#8217;t know. Although we didn&#8217;t do this at Gateway this year and I don&#8217;t know if or when we&#8217;ll do one in the future, but I&#8217;ve always put incentives in place at our Venture Quest (VBS programs). We did this two ways. We had an offering contest and we gave away prized for kids who brought friends. I certainly had an agenda.</p>
<p>1. We were raising money for the work my friends Joel and Heidi are doing in Burkina Faso, West Africa. What they are doing is literally changing the landscape of a Muslim nation through Children&#8217;s Evangelism. As they continue to do their work, Burkina Faso my look completely different when the next generation becomes adults. So I do a boys vs. girls offering contest. I strongly urge the kids not to simply get money from mom and dad (although I&#8217;m sure many do). I encourage them to find ways to earn money, do extra chores or set up a lemonade stand, and many do. The last VQ I did this was my biggest yet. The kids raised over $6,000. I think the boys won. Do I give out a prize? No, just bragging rights. No really, I hype it up really big and the fact that the boys brought in more money seems to be enough. Usually I set an overall goal where my head gets shaved. That summer both me and another CP got his head shaved. It was classic.</p>
<p>2. Our VQ program has been evangelistic in nature. I would close off registration at 60-70% capacity. Then when the kids get there I encourage them to bring their friends. We equip them with the opportunity telling them that this is how they can see their friends come to Christ. Again, we highly urge them to bring their friends and neighbors who don&#8217;t go to church anywhere else. We then give away tons of prizes to those who bring friends. Every night we do give away tons of prizes randomly, but we usually have the big prize give-away at the pool party the Sunday night after VQ.</p>
<p>So, that is what I do. I have my own agenda. I want to see the unchurched come into our church and find Christ and hopefully find a church home. I also want to enable people doing amazing things around the world. I believe the kids would respond in a positive way regardless, but I do believe the incentives of the prizes and contest puts the kids over the top. The deal is that at my last VQ, we have around 1000 kids come. Only about 70 or so got prizes. Only two people got their head shaved. However, every kid had an amazing experience.</p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve done. What about you?</p>
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		<title>My Beef with Bible Bucks: How do I get rid of them?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Elementary]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://childrensministryonline.com/blog/fresh-ideas/my-beef-with-bible-bucks-why-do-you-do-it/">Yesterday I talked about my thoughts on Bible Bucks incentive/award programs</a>. This was all inspired by Sam&#8217;s posts <a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=759" target="_blank">here</a>, <a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=762" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=767" target="_blank">here</a>. Anyway, my experience has been only negative or neutral, so I&#8217;ve had the pesky little habit of getting rid of them at the churches where I&#8217;ve worked.</p>
<p>So, thinking about getting rid of your Bible Bucks system? It&#8217;s easier than you&#8217;d think. I&#8217;ve done it three times and I&#8217;ve had exactly the same experience every time.</p>
<p>First of all, your biggest reaction will not be from the kids, it will be from adults. In all honesty, the most noise I heard from were volunteers, not parents. Usually it&#8217;s been the &#8220;we&#8217;ve been doing this for 7 years&#8221; thing or &#8220;Why would we get rid of something the kids love so much?&#8221; reaction.&#8230; <a href="http://childrensministryonline.com/elementary/my-beef-with-bible-bucks-how-do-i-get-rid-of-them/" class="read_more">Read the rest</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://childrensministryonline.com/blog/fresh-ideas/my-beef-with-bible-bucks-why-do-you-do-it/">Yesterday I talked about my thoughts on Bible Bucks incentive/award programs</a>. This was all inspired by Sam&#8217;s posts <a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=759" target="_blank">here</a>, <a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=762" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=767" target="_blank">here</a>. Anyway, my experience has been only negative or neutral, so I&#8217;ve had the pesky little habit of getting rid of them at the churches where I&#8217;ve worked.</p>
<p>So, thinking about getting rid of your Bible Bucks system? It&#8217;s easier than you&#8217;d think. I&#8217;ve done it three times and I&#8217;ve had exactly the same experience every time.</p>
<p>First of all, your biggest reaction will not be from the kids, it will be from adults. In all honesty, the most noise I heard from were volunteers, not parents. Usually it&#8217;s been the &#8220;we&#8217;ve been doing this for 7 years&#8221; thing or &#8220;Why would we get rid of something the kids love so much?&#8221; reaction. The solution to this is just clear and honest communication. I&#8217;ll communicate to parents and volunteers something like this:</p>
<p>Although we&#8217;ve had success with the prize store over the last few years, we&#8217;re looking to makes some changes to see if we can provide an even better experience for our kids. Maintaining the prize store costs a large amount of money and requires a lot of our volunteer resources. We&#8217;re looking at ways to free up these resources and do something special and different that the kids aren&#8217;t expecting and will totally love (maybe give some examples like a big party bash with inflatables and games at the end of every series or an end of the school year lock-in that&#8217;s totally free).</p>
<p>Sometimes I&#8217;ll even be direct and say, &#8220;Did you know that we spent $5,000 on prizes last year? Essentially that was $5,000 on pencils, erasers and yo-yos.Â  Can you imagine how we could totally blow these kids away if we used $5,000 differently?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had a volunteer or parents argue with the simple truth. Usually when we announce it to the kids we will get some push back. We&#8217;ll get some complaints and questions.</p>
<p>However, usually we&#8217;ll explain to the kids that the Prize Store is taking a break. We don&#8217;t know when or if we&#8217;ll open it up again, so be sure to spend all your money at this last one. We usually amp it up and make sure we&#8217;ve got enough prizes as well as some new items that the kids will enjoy. Then we close it. By saying it is taking a break, we&#8217;ve left ourselves some space to open it back up if we really need to (like if the kids totally rebel against the idea&#8230; although they never have). Then when we do a big Christmas party or end of school year blast, we communicate to parents and volunteers that we&#8217;re doing this because we&#8217;re not doing the prize store. They&#8217;ll see the light.</p>
<p>In the 3 to 6 months after the prize store is closed, you will have a parent come up to you asking if their child can use their bucks as they were gone for the final prize store. I always say yes. If I still have prizes, I&#8217;ll put together a little gift bag of prizes their kids will love. If I don&#8217;t have any prizes, I&#8217;ll give them a $5 or $10 Wal-Mart gift card. In all the places I&#8217;ve closed prize stores, I&#8217;ve only had to do this with 4 or 5 people&#8230; combined. Within a week or two of closing the prize store, kids stop asking about it. Literally, they forget about it. Yeah, you&#8217;ll have the one or two kids complain, but 98% of all the other kids won&#8217;t mention it again. That&#8217;s usually my sign that it was a good move.</p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re looking to close down your prize store because you have or are building an experience that is fun and exciting in the context of connecting kids with leaders, peers and Jesus, then go for it! You&#8217;ll be glad you did.</p>
<p>Tomorrow will be my last post in this little series. There is one thing I&#8217;ve used incentives for. I did this for nearly 7 years at three different churches. I won&#8217;t apologize for it and I&#8217;d do it again in a heartbeat. Who knows, maybe I am a prize store hypocrite. You be the judge.</p>
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		<title>My Beef with Bible Bucks: Why do you do it?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This<a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=759" target="_blank"> week my friend Sam Luce wrote about using Bible Bucks in Kids Church</a> to motivate/reward children. Honestly, a lot of churches do it. Many programs actually have rewards built right into the fabric of it&#8217;s DNA. I&#8217;ve dismantled this type of program at three different churches (including Gateway where I&#8217;ve just landed). I&#8217;m not at all saying their wrong. For me it&#8217;s been a matter of personal preference. I just don&#8217;t like them. Not all the kids are inspired by it, it&#8217;s expensive, it can be a beast to manage and too often there are kids who feel left out on the day they get to go to the store (I know, that&#8217;s the day the leaders give out Bucks to everyone so that everyone has something to spend and those first time visitors can get at least the smallest prize).&#8230; <a href="http://childrensministryonline.com/elementary/my-beef-with-bible-bucks-why-do-you-do-it/" class="read_more">Read the rest</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This<a href="http://uptownkids.tv/wordpress/?p=759" target="_blank"> week my friend Sam Luce wrote about using Bible Bucks in Kids Church</a> to motivate/reward children. Honestly, a lot of churches do it. Many programs actually have rewards built right into the fabric of it&#8217;s DNA. I&#8217;ve dismantled this type of program at three different churches (including Gateway where I&#8217;ve just landed). I&#8217;m not at all saying their wrong. For me it&#8217;s been a matter of personal preference. I just don&#8217;t like them. Not all the kids are inspired by it, it&#8217;s expensive, it can be a beast to manage and too often there are kids who feel left out on the day they get to go to the store (I know, that&#8217;s the day the leaders give out Bucks to everyone so that everyone has something to spend and those first time visitors can get at least the smallest prize).</p>
<p>Let me tell you , dismantling the Bible Bucks system is a little daunting. There aren&#8217;t people out there who &#8220;hate&#8221; it and are glad to see it go. The only people who&#8217;ve ever told me they were glad to see it go were the staff members who had to stock it and price everything. In fact, most of the kids LOVE it&#8230; but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean its the right thing either.</p>
<p>The question I have to ask is, &#8220;why are you doing it? Why is it a part of your program?</p>
<p>For many it is the thing kids are most excited about coming to church. It actually motivates them to come every week, learn their memory verse, bring their Bible and sometimes even bring a friend. However, are kids falling in love with Jesus and his word or are they in love with their Bible Bucks? Are they really connecting with their leaders and other peers or are they motivated simply to earn enough for the scooter in the prize store?</p>
<p>Call me an idealist, but I think our programs should be so good that the kids just don&#8217;t want to miss out. Maybe they&#8217;ve got such a good relationship with their small group leader that they don&#8217;t want to miss them. I understand that we want the experience to be fun as &#8220;fun&#8221; is the language of kids. However, when the main &#8220;fun&#8221; part isn&#8217;t really associated with connecting with kids or helping lead them to spiritual maturity, then you&#8217;ve got a problem (regardless whether it&#8217;s a prize system, and environment or games). I&#8217;ve been at churches that have spent thousands of dollars on a prize store. My question would be, &#8220;what could you do with that extra money that would make a big difference immediately?&#8221; I&#8217;d figure out the answer to that and then do it.</p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t want to rain on anyone&#8217;s parade. There may be people out there who have a fantastic experience with their prize store and it only &#8220;adds&#8221; to an already exciting and fulfilling program. If that&#8217;s the case, then go for it. I can only speak from my own experience and every prize store experience I&#8217;ve had has been negative or has added nothing to the overall experience for the amount of work and resources it took.</p>
<p>Tomorrow I&#8217;m going to blog about how to dismantle a prize store, just in case you&#8217;re thinking about doing it.</p>
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